i'm sure no one would advise him to take the tack that sarah palin did, because while she caused a lot of talk, i think in the end, she was not a plus for that campaign. you may disagree, but-- >> she fought joe biden to a draw. i think paul ryan has to address some specific questions about his budget plan, but he also has to make it clear that it's hiss budget plan. m.v.p mitt romney's plan is the one that will be implemented in the white house and you can't sayeg in the ryan plan is automatically going to be in the romney plan. >> schieffer: well, mitt romney has said it won't be. >> exactly. but think a lot of what joe biden is going to say is whatever paul ryan has ever said is going to be what mitt romney said. that's not the case. >> i still think you have an incredible economic debate to have in this country. i think there are great issues to talk about and i think this will continue in the vice presidential debate. >> schieffer: not to mention the job numbers. >> reporter: exactly. the word "fiscal cliff" was never mentioned in the first debate as will likely come up, i sawcial